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Just joking Martin, as ever great review. smile
I've always loved TGS, although I do find the bonus disc a revelation."Shine On Me", is a peach of a song IMHO

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Were all pleased to see you got over the fear of tigers Martin, and remember as C.M. said, their just samples really. smile

Great review as always.

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I've listened to both discs of TGS several times now, including once at work (had headphones on and looked like I was transcribing dictation, so it was okay!). I've caught myself grinning a great deal whilst doing so. Yes, I've also caught my eyes rolling a couple of times, but nothing compared to what I feared. No lengthy review from me (still at work, mind!) but I will second a few of the comments already posted about it. I have yet to try the rearranging some of you have suggested -- maybe when I get home tonight, if I have time.

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I started at track 2, and went on enjoying it right up to track 10, one word came to mind about it all… Wow! And after that it was downhill for me with ‘Shine On Me’, one word there: Urgh! and then I lost interest in the remaining tracks, with the exception of ‘Dance With Me’ coming back to my rescue.
Count me firmly in the 'Urgh!" camp when it comes to "Shine on Me," too. Do not care for it (she writes while shuddering emphatically).

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[b] Indeed... the version of "A Long Time" on this CD is fantastic. It's even more remarkable (to me at least), that a notably different version of a song I've always liked, has such a positive effect on me.
Yes, its not just a slightly different take, its a very different version. I almost like this better than the original, and that dont happen too often for me with Foxx classics. [/b]
I agree completely! And I'm quite surprised by this, too.

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Were all pleased to see you got over the fear of tigers Martin, and remember as C.M. said, their just samples really. smile
They still seem unnecessary and more than a bit silly to me, but because they sound more like a revved-up outboard motor than a wild feline's growl they actually make me laugh affectionately now ("Oh, they were just having fun playing around in the studio, weren't they? That's what happens when you have one hand round a pint and the other on a sampler.") instead of cringe ("No, you weren't serious, were you, lads? Lads? No, really?!"). smile

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All these reviews! I know this post is a bit offbeat, but let me get it off my hairy chest.

I am reminded of the time that I was reading my sisters "Smash Hits" (I can't admit to it being mine, can I?) and in particular the review of the single (first release) of Endlessly. It alludes to the pscychadelic influences although never called it a 60's revival as such, but the funniest part was the ending: "...then a batty, hysterical woman starts wailing and then it all goes backwards for a bit. Who spiked his coacoa?".

It was the first time a negative review of a musician I liked never annoyed me because I could honestly say that the reviewer just didn't get it. He (or she) never really got into the music they were supposed to review and everything they wrote was superficial. It is interesting to see a lot of the "honesty" here on this forum, by fans on a lot of the material - especially as the material (any of the recent releases) has been listened to intently. I think it was a great idea to pump out so much in such a short time (heaven knows how much work it must have been) because people are (more than ever before I would guess) comparing the works side by side.

For me, "Annexe" opened a rather curious door; i.e. one to "The Beatles" catlogue. I had never tried to listen to them and often shut them out because "they weren't cool anymore". Needless to say I found a whole world of stuff I never dreamed of, including their own version of Annexe called "I Feel Fine"! So John Foxx has a legacy of influencing musicians across several generations and has also opened the eyes and influenced the listening habits of others too. Not a bad lifes work, and still hammwering away at it! Enjoy the gig tonight, I really wish I could get over there.

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All these reviews!
It's great, I love the reviews, good, bad, long, short, indifferent, it’s the eagerness of people posting that keeps the forum alive, and as Birdsong said: “these are exciting times”.
With remasters, new CD’s, and who knows what, hey maybe John will even end up presenting a program on an Arts channel, or heaven forbid, a guest slot on a cookery program, or he might even pop up on Gardeners World to talk about his love of Nymphaea, or Primula Vulgaris… laugh


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"A Long Time" on this CD is fantastic. It's even more remarkable (to me at least), that a notably different version of a song I've always liked has such a positive effect on me.
And, for me also.
Getting the choice to internalise the alternative versions that I like, in place of some of those that I was never keen on has unexpectedly worked out really well for me on this remaster, I am still playing my choices quite a lot, and it’s afforded me the rare opportunity to ‘reimagine’ that period.


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the unpolished stones from which Zeus b Held charmed the sparkle in 1983...
…the arrival of the ubiquitous Held with his cloth and beeswax, on a mission to make a hit
Nicely put, but for me at least, I just wish that Zeus had Been ‘Held’ off from polishing those stones as much as he did in ’83 with his little duster.

Incidentally, going off topic for a mo’ did any UK members here ever catch that episode of the Terry Wogan chat show: Wogan, in ’85 (I think), when one of his guest’s was (bizarrely for Wogan) the ubiquitous Mr Held himself?
I was taken aback when John’s producer sat down on old Terry’s sofa, and chatted briefly about his work, and near the end of the interview Wogan asked him about who he thought was a ‘name to look out for' kind of thing, my jaw hit the floor when Held said the magic words I'd so rarely heard on TV, 'John Foxx'. How many mum’s and dad’s sitting around watching at teatime heard that and thought, who?
Almost as bizarre a moment as when Grace Jones appeared on Wogan, singing a song and wearing a cloth bag on her head the whole way through, until she removed it in the last few seconds… eek


Just a thought on my part, but on listening to the alternative ‘Tigers’ version I really became much more aware of the lyrics and the more obvious growls, and I started thinking that it felt a bit more allegorical than the TGS ’83 song, and with the lines like: “He said he was a saint”, and “silver tortures in colour vision”, and also, “A time of bones and flowers” leading up to all the growling at the end.
I wonder if John had thought originally of using Lions roaring, a much stronger image I feel, but of course that animal as a symbol is maybe a tad too religious, and might have crossed over rather than just hovered on the spiritual borderline, which (I think) he quite successfully treads on much of his work.
On the other hand…
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That's what happens when you have one hand round a pint and the other on a sampler
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There are some very interesting alternative versions on this one, especially "Twilight's Last Gleaming". Very cold and haunting.

The alternative version of "The Hidden Man" sounds like it's been attacked by Louis!

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There are some very interesting alternative versions on this one, especially "Twilight's Last Gleaming". Very cold and haunting.
The glass is always half full for me. I find it warm, strange, and haunting.

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Interesting (honestly) how "haunting" can be both warm and cold!

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The glass is always half full for me. I find it warm, strange, and haunting.
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Very cold and haunting.
For me, that track has always been very graphic - it paints pictures and colours in my brain.

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"Shine on me" amusingly "takes a great deal of inspiration from" the harmony guitar lines from the Beatles "And Your Bird Can Sing" -
perhaps this is why John didn't have the nerve to release it back in the day!

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