Metamatic Forums John Foxx Nation 12 Electrofear...your honest opinions

I think it is from a Public Enemy track from c1990, then made more famous by superstar DJ Chad Jackson.
His single is one of the crowning moments of hip hop and has itself been sampled a skwillion times.

The Nation 12 track of the same name was a bigger hit than the A Side on the dance floors of the early 1990s and (as far as I know) has little, nothing or less to do with John Foxx.

Yeah I don't think he had anything to do with the drummer track. Personally I think his influence is clearly audiable on the tracks he was involved with.

yeah, i keep hearing it in strange places. thanks.

what's that thing that's being said with sped-up vox, "brrr stick 'em/ha-ha stick 'em?" that's very strange. it makes me laugh.

i like the track, 'remember' 'cause it's nice 'n creepy. like a murder mystery. and it's got that chill factor/chills-up-the-spine. even now. i'm gonna put it on right now.

When I heard about Nation 12 I actually went to the local "DJ" store to buy it and they had it! I wa sglad since the two times I went in there to specifically get something that catered to that market, they always had it. {The other release was Dr. Robert's Starjuice EP].

So I went home and put it on. And HATED IT. Let me say that I didn't get "Remember" until the late 90s! This was the time when I had just heard about "Electrofear." And "Electrofear" had the distinction of being the only Foxx related track that was disappointing to me. I finally got "Remember" once e-bay existed and quite liked it! The A-side, at least. If I NEVER "Listen to the Drummer" again, it'll be too soon.

But I have the Nation 12 CD and really like about half of it. Yes, the remixes stink, but it is a fascinating glimpse into a project that almost never was.

That's a pity!

As an example of his romantic period, its quite good. Better than most of the syrupy pop around. My favourites are This Side of Paradise and the single version of Endlessly.

In fact, I'm weening my 3yo niece off Britney Spears by getting her to sing to Enter the Angel!

I love the version of CBI on Shifting City. In fact, it and An Ocean We Can Breathe are about the only tracks I still frequently listen to from that album.

The remixes are so-so. Probably better than the rest of the album.

How can you love CBI? It's like five minutes of being hit over the head with a biscuit tin full of gravel. Oh well, it takes all sorts...

I agree with you about 'Ocean' though. I like the whole album although I think at the time it wasn't so much the quality of the album as the sheer relief that John had finally released another album.

Best,
H.

There's something about its opening and the beat that appeals to me. Its very danceable.
I'd have to agree there although the 5 track SOE CD did that for me. I got it before I got Shifting City. When it came out, I rush to buy it and I was stunned. I kept playing it over and over again.

Playing this album again now, I'm struck by how many elements of it are entirely innkeeping with the rough-diamond style employed on Sideways, and particularly Impossible.

The tracks She Was and Shadow Dancing are becoming favourites on an album I've always liked. There is a rawness about them, especially the former, which hints at the grainy B-Movie soundtracks. There is a subtle sci-fi, dystopian thread running through it, and the under-production is very effective and heralds the ideas that we have seen explored recently in more depth.

I'd advocate this album as being more significant than its given credit for. Florian for instance, echoes 'Neon Lights' very effectively, setting the scene for sonic ideas developed on TPOE.