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Posted By: Birdsong Media - interview - 08/14/08 11:33 PM
I'll post it at the other place too, but thought Foxx fans might like to see this.

New to me - an excellent interview with the earliest post-Foxx band while on tour in the US during the winter of 1979/1980

http://www.library.ubc.ca/archives/pdfs/ubyssey/UBYSSEY_1980_01_25.pdf

(pages 9 and 12)
Posted By: maryann Re: Media - interview - 08/15/08 01:17 PM
Great find and interesting read.

Anyone notice the prices advertised for the stereo equipment?
Posted By: metal beat Re: Media - interview - 08/15/08 06:53 PM
Nice interview. Thanks for the link Martin.

"Boring old fart" not a nice way to descibe our John.

Peter
Posted By: Brian Re: Media - interview - 08/15/08 07:53 PM
Cheers for posting this Martin.

Was Warren really a hair dresser? laugh
Posted By: newvox Re: Media - interview - 08/15/08 09:44 PM
Tar for the linky. Always interesting to hear 'why they split' stories etc.
Posted By: maryann Re: Media - interview - 08/15/08 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by metal beat:
"Boring old fart" not a nice way to descibe our John.
Yes, I noticed that also. mad
Posted By: Black Shadow Re: Media - interview - 08/16/08 05:34 AM
I going to have to be brutually honest here:

As much as I admire Warren, (Because of him, I started taking up drumming), I have to say if (and I stress, if) the interview is accurate (though I'm unsure of it myself) and Warren really did say that John was a "boring old fart" then it was rather rude of him to say that, not to mention very degrading and cruel frown . As far I know, John never spoke ill of his former bandmates (this includes Warren) in his interviews (did he?). If Warren's comment isn't true then I'll withdraw my statement smile .


As for Warren being a hairdresser (that's where I get a bit suss about this interview), well that's news to me confused . I would like to hear Rob and Cerise's opinion on this claim smile . The only person that I could think of that worked as a hairdresser before making it big as a musician would be Mike Score of 'A Flock Of Seagulls'...

Rant over smile
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: Media - interview - 08/16/08 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Sans Frontieres:
I going to have to be brutually honest here:

As much as I admire Warren, (Because of him, I started taking up drumming), I have to say if (and I stress, if) the interview is accurate (though I'm unsure of it myself) and Warren really did say that John was a "boring old fart" then it was rather rude of him to say that, not to mention very degrading and cruel frown . As far I know, John never spoke ill of his former bandmates (this includes Warren) in his interviews (did he?). If Warren's comment isn't true then I'll withdraw my statement smile .
I'm afraid that I can't possibly comment on this as it's an interview from almost thirty years ago... I'm sure that no-one will remember what was (or wasn't) said.

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Originally posted by Sans Frontieres:
As for Warren being a hairdresser (that's where I get a bit suss about this interview), well that's news to me confused . I would like to hear Rob and Cerise's opinion on this claim smile . The only person that I could think of that worked as a hairdresser before making it big as a musician would be Mike Score of 'A Flock Of Seagulls'...
Somewhere I have a picture of Warren cutting Midge's hair... honest... I do... somewhere... I'll try and dig it out and post it here.

Rob
Posted By: Birdsong Re: Media - interview - 08/16/08 12:27 PM
There's a part of me that regrets posting reference to what seems to be a 'controversial' interview.

There's so much more archive value in this than what was said or not at a time when emotions and tension was running high in the band. That is why I thought it was of interest - it will be a real shame if one or two comments from it are taken out of context and become more significant than they should.

I really hope this hasn't caused any offense to John or members of Ultravox, and I apologise if that is the case.
Certainly wasn't the intention.
Posted By: Black Shadow Re: Media - interview - 08/17/08 03:32 AM
Originally posted by Birdsong:

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There's a part of me that regrets posting reference to what seems to be a 'controversial' interview.
You shouldn't have anything to regret. After all your intentions for posting the link were, as you said earlier, for archive value. smile

All I was only trying to do in my previous post was state my opinion on the matter regarding Warren's comment on John. But in the process, I might have slightly over-reacted and for that I apologise. smile

Cheers
Posted By: E. G. Ekin Re: Media - interview - 08/17/08 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Sans Frontieres:
The only person that I could think of that worked as a hairdresser before making it big as a musician would be Mike Score of 'A Flock Of Seagulls'...
Sharleen Spiteri, of the band Texas (Craig Armstrong - who toured with Ultravox in 1986/87 - wrote and played on most the first album) was spotted working in a hairdressers before making it in music.
Posted By: E. G. Ekin Re: Media - interview - 08/17/08 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by Birdsong:
There's a part of me that regrets posting reference to what seems to be a 'controversial' interview.

There's so much more archive value in this than what was said or not at a time when emotions and tension was running high in the band. That is why I thought it was of interest - it will be a real shame if one or two comments from it are taken out of context and become more significant than they should.

I really hope this hasn't caused any offense to John or members of Ultravox, and I apologise if that is the case.
Certainly wasn't the intention.
Hi Martin,

I wouldn't have any worries about posting the link. The thing about the press, and particularly interviews, is that anything published is always going to be there as reference material - even 30 years after it was printed. PR control over what is printed is much tighter now than it was back then, and so comments, whether unguarded or not, made newspapers and music press a much more interesting read.

Whether Warren actually said that (or was a hairdreser or not) is not actually the main issue to be considered here I think; after John and Robin left the band, Ultravox had been dropped by Island, and the remaining members had had a year of relative uncertainty on whether they would carry on as a unit. One thing that comes with 'genius' is a certain arrogance, a form of contol, and a belief that your opinions do count more than others. Given that John was the main song writer in the first incarnation of Ultravox, I think there's a lot to be said about that. We do know he is a man of boundless ideas who likes to be in contol, and to me it's perfectly understandable that Warren's feelings at the time may have been tinged with the thoughts that until that point he was maybe not allowed to fully express himself in the music or output in the Foxx era. By the time Midge Ure joined, it seems a much more cohesive unit was being forged that for a time at least accomodated everyone's ideas and in/output.

The article is very interesting Martin and a fascinating snapshot of life of a small band on the road in bleakest Northern America in the early 1980s. Thanks for posting it.

smile

All the best,


EG
Posted By: Black Shadow Re: Media - interview - 08/18/08 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Rob Harris:

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Somewhere I have a picture of Warren cutting Midge's hair... honest... I do... somewhere... I'll try and dig it out and post it here.
Interesting, can't wait to see it, cheers Rob. laugh


Originally posted by E.G. Ekin:

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Sharleen Spiteri, of the band Texas (Craig Armstrong - who toured with Ultravox in 1986/87 - wrote and played on most the first album) was spotted working in a hairdressers before making it in music.
Wow, I didn't know that, cheers for the info. smile
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