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Posted By: Rob Harris A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/01/12 05:49 PM
This is something I've been meaning to do for quite a while now.

The Metamatic Website was beginning to look its age - and it was felt that the only way forward was for it to be completely re-built. So, for a number of months now, a 'new-look' Metamatic Website has been slowly taking shape.

The 1st of January 2012 seemed to be as good a date as any to unveil it - and while there are inevitably a number of areas which are still under construction (sorry about that), I hope that you can see that this new structure has enough flexibility to allow for easier and more detailed updates.

I look forward to reading your comments.

Rob
Posted By: MemberD Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/02/12 07:53 AM
Hi Rob,

Happy New Year to you and to all forum members.

New site looks nice! Very neat and I like the 'dictionary' (foxxianary? foxxipedia?) on the right, although obviously still 'under construction'. Well done.

PS don't know if it's just me but I couldn't visualize the image on the home page http://www.metamatic.com/ ...
Posted By: Brian Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/02/12 09:50 AM
Happy New year from me too.

Yes Mark I get the same missing image at the Metamatic front door.

Brian
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/02/12 10:02 AM
Originally Posted By: MemberD
Hi Rob,

Happy New Year to you and to all forum members.

New site looks nice! Very neat and I like the 'dictionary' (foxxianary? foxxipedia?) on the right, although obviously still 'under construction'. Well done.

PS don't know if it's just me but I couldn't visualize the image on the home page http://www.metamatic.com/ ...


Originally Posted By: Brian
Happy New year from me too.

Yes Mark I get the same missing image at the Metamatic front door.

Brian


I'm not sure what happened there - it should be back now...
There are inevitably going to be a few little 'teething problems' like that as the new-look site gets rolled-out. I'll try to rectify them as quickly as possible.

Rob
Posted By: core memory Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/05/12 11:45 PM
I really like the changes on the news page Rob, though I'd question the use and effect of the light grey type in places, but excellent idea to have a section (on the right) highlighting the important new releases complete with thumbnails.

There's one thing I remain unsure about though and that's the initial Metamatic.com page which now has only a textless graphic acting as the link. This threw me at first, it was a bit like arriving at an entrance that's missing the door number, now everytime I come to it I feel a unsure if anyone's going to be at home, (something that's also still compounded by the lack of seeing any user names logged into the forum since the alteration last spring).
The blankness of the opening page confused me too. As nothing happened for a bit and there was no "click here to enter" indication, I gave up and assumed the site was down for maintenance. Since then I'd been going straight to the forum by typing in www.metamatic.com/forum and it was only when reading the post above I realised you can access the forum through the opening page after all.

One other thing that surprises me is the lack of new posters visiting. You would think after all John's collaborations with all these new and happening artists that some of their fans might have been tempted over here. I have no idea how the average search engine works, but I'd espect anyone typing "John Foxx" into google would be sent here?
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/06/12 12:52 PM
Originally Posted By: core memory
I really like the changes on the news page Rob, though I'd question the use and effect of the light grey type in places, but excellent idea to have a section (on the right) highlighting the important new releases complete with thumbnails.

There's one thing I remain unsure about though and that's the initial Metamatic.com page which now has only a textless graphic acting as the link. This threw me at first, it was a bit like arriving at an entrance that's missing the door number, now everytime I come to it I feel a unsure if anyone's going to be at home, (something that's also still compounded by the lack of seeing any user names logged into the forum since the alteration last spring).


Originally Posted By: Herbert the turbot
The blankness of the opening page confused me too. As nothing happened for a bit and there was no "click here to enter" indication, I gave up and assumed the site was down for maintenance. Since then I'd been going straight to the forum by typing in www.metamatic.com/forum and it was only when reading the post above I realised you can access the forum through the opening page after all.

One other thing that surprises me is the lack of new posters visiting. You would think after all John's collaborations with all these new and happening artists that some of their fans might have been tempted over here. I have no idea how the average search engine works, but I'd espect anyone typing "John Foxx" into google would be sent here?


I'm really pleased that you like the right-hand side bar which includes all of the key news about Forthcoming Releases, Recent Releases and Forthcoming Events. I'm also particularly happy with the A-Z which in itself was one of the key reasons behind the redesign - a way for visitors to find out more by being able to search against specific items. While the accompanying pages are quite sparce at the moment - I've tried to bring across at least as much information as was available on the previous version of the site. This hasn't been possible in all instances, but take a quick look at the page for the Metamatic album, and you will see a number of the versions of that album listed - all of which take you to pages which will (in time) provide more 'release specific' information. The A-Z currently lists things like track titles and single / album releases, but the intention is for it to grow into a full and thorough John Foxx index.

The 'light grey' text will in some instances (though not all) be a link - this will be particularly useful when track titles are shown. Also the 'breadcrumb', located towards the top of some pages (especially in the Discography), should help with the navigation throughout the site.

Unfortunately, The Forum has had to take a bit of back-seat to enable me to concentrate on re-building the rest of the site. There's already been quite a bit of feedback about it's useability - and I'll try to incorporate as many of those suggestions / comments as I can. The main problem is that the 'upgraded version' (which our ISP insisted that we have to reduce the number of spam attacks it was attracting) has so many 'whistles and bells' that any changes to it are incredibly complex when compared to the previous version. One option was to start afresh with new forum software, but that would mean that all of the existing content would be lost - and I certainly didn't want that. In an ideal world The Forum would 'look and feel' like the previous version, but with all of the enhanced security that the new version offers. I'm currently speaking with the software developers to see how that can best be acheived.

As for the rest of the site. The 'blank' opening page was out of necessity as I simply ran out of time if I was going to upload a 'new look' site on the 1st of January - which is what I really wanted to do. I will endeavour to add in some appropriate 'click here to enter' text in the next few days when time permits.

Rob
Posted By: Birdsong Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/06/12 01:19 PM

Nothing to add much to what Rob has said. This new framework has been carefully considered to give us enormous flexibility in the future and space / logic with which to present everything that is John Foxx. And believe me, that's quite a complex beast that constantly defies a lot of categorisation!!

Regarding the forum its been quiet all year and for a while.... ?

We intend to have a link to the Twitter feed added to the right hand column and notify website updates that way which might improve the flow of cross-town traffic...

There's also a backlog of new members in the registration queue which is also being addressed as a priority, but as Rob confirmed, the most important thing became a 'launch' on January 1st and that meant a number of short-term compromises had to be made.

Full steam ahead now though.
Thanks for your comments - always welcome and constructive.
Mx
Posted By: RadioBeach Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/10/12 04:05 PM
I dunno. I nipout for a bottle of milk and someone's rearranged all the bleedin' furniture!

Love the new decor Rob! Nice bookshelf Martin! Cheers!
Posted By: Geigertek Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 01/10/12 09:21 PM
Like the new look very much :-)
Posted By: Nisei Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 07/11/12 10:58 PM
Originally Posted By: Birdsong
This new framework has been carefully considered to give us enormous flexibility in the future and space / logic with which to present everything that is John Foxx. And believe me, that's quite a complex beast that constantly defies a lot of categorisation!!

Am I missing something here?
NEWS: Yes there's news there about releases and gigs.
DISCOGRAPHY: nothing there, still under construction
ARCHIVE: still under construction and only 77-79 are active, like they were half a year ago.
I know you're doing this in spare time (I hate that word and believe it doesn't exist) but as it is now, there's hardly any content here at all...
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 07/12/12 08:22 AM
Originally Posted By: Nisei
Originally Posted By: Birdsong
This new framework has been carefully considered to give us enormous flexibility in the future and space / logic with which to present everything that is John Foxx. And believe me, that's quite a complex beast that constantly defies a lot of categorisation!!

Am I missing something here?
NEWS: Yes there's news there about releases and gigs.
DISCOGRAPHY: nothing there, still under construction
ARCHIVE: still under construction and only 77-79 are active, like they were half a year ago.
I know you're doing this in spare time (I hate that word and believe it doesn't exist) but as it is now, there's hardly any content here at all...


Just because there doesn't 'appear' to be any activity doesn't mean that this website is dormant, and that no work is being done to move it forward. I can assure you that the reverse is true and that a huge amount of work has been done on it since the beginning of the year - in fact we're just in the midst of finalising / proofing a new area ahead of it being made live.

However, you are right about there being no such thing as 'spare time'... crazy

The main problem with working on a website is that it does have to be done in stages - as and when 'real life' allows - usually (and time permitting) at the end of a day or at a weekend. It's also got to be approached in a logical way, as opposed to just working on 'one section' today and a 'different section' tomorrow. As I've said previously, I wanted this new version of the site to be a lot more 'user friendly' - where content could be located quicker and easier. That was part of the reasoning behind the A-Z and the right-hand column which details / summarises all of the key pieces of news (Forthcoming Releases, Recent Releases and Forthcoming Events). These changes have also made working on the site far easier as well. Unfortunately, everything that's available can't simply be put straight on-line in one go - content (irrespective of its format - text or imagery) all has to be created and then adjusted for the 'www', and all of that inevitably takes time. Amazingly, there is far more 'content' on this version of the website.

Please contact me directly (robinharris@metamatic.com) if you want to help with the site. The more people who are able to provide content, the faster the site will grow.

Rob
Posted By: Birdsong Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 07/12/12 12:27 PM

Yep. That thing called 'real life' is a bugger isn't it! keeps getting in the way of all the fun and interesting things

I've seen it referred to as IRL in those fancy social network sites too = In Real Life

Well, ROFLMAO!!!

It also doesn't help that John is such a busy and productive artist!! All these new releases and live appearances need most of the attention, distracting what time there is away from putting all the material we do have on line.

And then there's the enigmatic, out of focus and impossible to classify element that has characterised most of his work.
You think you have a system -

'right, that's one of THOSE, and so is that, so we can have a page for these...'

'But what about this one?'

'Doesn't quite fit. Rethink the logic.'

And talking of social networks, the metamatic Twitter feed has been 'compromised' so the account is suspended!
More bl**dy faff.

Posted By: Nisei Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 07/18/12 06:58 PM
Thank you both for the replies, appreciate it.
I do understand that you guys are pretty busy behind the scenes but it just seems odd to me that a website like quietcity has more content than the official website. I'm not expecting loads of material to be added at once, just an update now and then would be nice (discography, The Service fanzine etc). But don't worry, I'll be patient wink
Thanks
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 07/26/12 11:46 AM
Originally Posted By: Rob Harris
I can assure you that the reverse is true and that a huge amount of work has been done on it since the beginning of the year - in fact we're just in the midst of finalising / proofing a new area ahead of it being made live.


Originally Posted By: Nisei
Thank you both for the replies, appreciate it.
I do understand that you guys are pretty busy behind the scenes but it just seems odd to me that a website like quietcity has more content than the official website. I'm not expecting loads of material to be added at once, just an update now and then would be nice (discography, The Service fanzine etc). But don't worry, I'll be patient wink


The new 'area' I mentioned in my previous post (12th of July, 2012) has now 'gone-live'. The work done on the Merchandise section will help me to get the Discography section up and running. Take a look at the page created for the CD version of the D.N.A. album to get an idea of much detail (as a minimum) is scheduled to be included for every release.

As for The Service - both issues were included on the 'old-style' website. Unfortunately, not everything was able to come across when this 'new-look' website was created. I felt that other things were more 'pressing' - specifically the A-Z, the key News Stories (in the right-hand column) and the Breadcrumb - and so some other items (both issues of The Service being the perfect example) had take a bit of a back seat. Both issues have been scanned and all of the text has been transcribed, and so I shall try to get them both back into the Archive as soon as possible.

Rob
Posted By: Nisei Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 07/26/12 04:32 PM
Thanks for the updates Rob!
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 11/15/12 01:06 PM
A few months have passed since I last posted here to let you all know how work on the site is progressing.

Since then an incredible amount of material has been created which will support the Discography and Archive sections. All of that material has to be sorted (and tested) before the top level pages can 'go-live'. Once that work has been completed, then it should be far easier for the site to be updated on a more regular basis. That's the plan anyhow... grin

As before I would ask that you contact me directly (robinharris@metamatic.com) if you want to help with the site. The more people who are able to provide content (whether that's reviews, images, photographs, information and / or links) the faster the site will grow.

Rob
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 04/17/13 03:14 PM
Unfortunately, I'm not able to add much more to what I wrote back in November of last year.

The work on the Discography and Archive sections is still continuing. In an ideal world I'd really like to be able to present the 'finished and final' website, but for a number of reasons (the main one being the amount of time available) that isn't going to be possible. However, I'm hoping that I'll nevertheless be in a position to upload the new 'top level' pages into both of those sections before too much longer. A few other 'surprises' are also in the pipeline - and it's hoped that they will also be completed very soon.

Rob
Posted By: Rodney Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 05/28/13 07:44 AM
G'day Rob/Martin.

I'm not seeing any users' avatars despite having that option selected within my 'Edit Preferences'. I'm also getting vertical and horizontal scroll bars on many of the posts.

Would these be issues with the current forum set-up or perhaps an issue with incompatability with the version of Internet Explorer I'm using (Internet Explorer 8)?

Cheers, lads ...
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 05/28/13 11:20 AM
Originally Posted By: Rodney
G'day Rob/Martin.

I'm not seeing any users' avatars despite having that option selected within my 'Edit Preferences'. I'm also getting vertical and horizontal scroll bars on many of the posts.

Would these be issues with the current forum set-up or perhaps an issue with incompatability with the version of Internet Explorer I'm using (Internet Explorer 8)?


G'day Rodney,

I think I've resolved the issue with the vertical and horizontal scroll bars - please check and let me know.

However, the avatars may take a little longer to sort - please bear with me. This started to be a problem when the ISP moved the entire site (including The Forum) onto a new server a few months back. I think the solution will have to be for me to manually apply avatars to everyones account individually - not ideal, but I can't see simpler one at the moment.

Rob
Posted By: Rodney Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 05/29/13 05:53 AM
Originally Posted By: Rob Harris

G'day Rodney,

I think I've resolved the issue with the vertical and horizontal scroll bars - please check and let me know.

Yes, confirmed, Rob. The scroll bars have indeed been removed now, so well done young man!

I wouldn't think the avatars are a priority, but I just wanted to check as to whether their absence was due to the forum or my computer.

Cheers, Rob, and thanks ...
Posted By: Rob Harris Re: A new-look Metamatic Website... - 05/11/14 12:14 AM
Top level pages were added to both the Archive and Discography sections at the beginning of April.
Inevitably, there's still a a huge amount of work still to do, but the basic framework has now been put in place.

Tonight over one hundred and twenty weblinks have been added to the pages within the Archive section.

Enjoy… wink

Rob
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