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A bit of a rare beast (1000 produced?). If anyone is interested, one has appeared on ebay: -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320201070890&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011
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Thanks Mike for the tip. I'm keeping an eye on this. I bet it'll go for more than £8 though. Peter
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This is the one where there are no vocals in the coda to Shifting City.
Otherwise, does anyone know if the recordings are the same as on Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour and/or Omnidelic Exotour?
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I'll be keeping an eye on this too but like Peter I guess it will go for a price beyond its worth. Or at least beyond my pocket!
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Originally posted by The Quiet Trees: does anyone know if the recordings are the same as on Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour and/or Omnidelic Exotour? As far as i can tell by ear, there the same versions as the full album.
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Coolsville... I've got number 12! (or 012, to be pedantic). The guy who's selling this one on e-bay has a far more glam history to his though, what with the backstage pass, buying it at the gig and all. Mine? Found it by sheer chance, on the way home from work, in Virgin Argyle Street after listening to it on the "cans".
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Still Only 8 Quid!!!
An absolute bargain!!
Must be worth 50 sheets!!
oh btw its not mine.. mine is very safe
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Yeah i thought it would increase from that loopy £8, to something nearer £30-£40. It still went for a bargin.
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Another copy has appeared on e-bay: -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370013716724&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=024
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I got this originally and I have to say...that if you've got the full 'Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour CD', then it's not worth paying high prices for this - even if it has 'Dislocation' on it.
Here's hoping that when the future re-issue of 'Shifting City' arrives, these tracks are made available either as part of a 2CD set or for download as the prices on EBay are just stupid and don't go to the artist blah blah blah (insert 'argument for astronmical prices on EBay/this should be made available as a download/CD/Edison Wax Cylinder' here)
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I guess if you have the full CD reissue, there's no point in bidding on one of those. I decided against it when I realised in all honesty, I'd be paying a tenner or so just for the sleeve. I'm not that much of a completist!
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Hi I did put a bid in at the last moment for £20 which was the most I was willing to pay but it went for £21. Peter
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I don't have either of these to hand, so excuse my ignorance. How come we refer to this as "Exotour 97" (leaving out the Subterranean... bit) despite what it says on the cover?
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Originally posted by Birdsong How come we refer to this as "Exotour 97" (leaving out the Subterranean... bit) despite what it says on the cover? That was just my laziness when I started the thread (I don't have a copy of the tour CDs either) Mike.
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Fairy nuff Mike, but I thought that was the general way of it with these two discs anyway re: Discographies etc?
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Something I have always wondered and I am sure someone can clarify things for me:
There are three releases: Exotour 97 5 tracks ltd to 1000 Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour 12 tracks ltd to 500 Omnidelic Exotour 13 tracks as part of the live two-disc release w/ the Golden Section live.
The first are separate and distinct recordings? The latter two releases are effectively the same except that the latter one contains an additional track, Dislocation? Am I right?
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Right - this should sort it! Exotour 97 5 tracks ltd to 1000 5 tracks including ‘Dislocation’ Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour 12 tracks ltd to 500 No ‘Dislocation’ but the rest of the rehearsal session. From memory, both discs are from the same rehearsal session. Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour/The Golden Section Tour SOE disc is now a 13 track edition with ‘Dislocation’ re-attached* Rob has put a wonderful discography on this site and you can check the formats here; http://www.metamatic.com/zDiscdocs03/meta0003cd.html Exotour 97 here; http://www.metamatic.com/zDiscdocs03/meta0004cd.html Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour and here; http://www.metamatic.com/zDiscdocs03/medcd725.html Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour/The Golden Section Tour (* My copy is in Sheffield so in earlier posts I assumed it was the same as the original 12 track edition, but no! Checking Rob’s discography pages, The Edsel edition has ‘Dislocation’ on it! Rendering the Exotour CD 97 redundant)
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You're absolutely right Garry etc, and I agree that the Discography here at metamatic is definitve etc...
I was just asking if anyone knew perhaps WHY the naming was done that way?
Are the common tracks actually the SAME on both releases?
And being really pedantic, note that the word 'Subterranean' is NOT used on the Golden Section double pack issue.
So, as Halloway says, we have "Exotour", "Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour" and "The Omnidelic Exotour"
Such is the way of things... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Birdsong: ...I was just asking if anyone knew perhaps WHY the naming was done that way?
Are the common tracks actually the SAME on both releases?
Such is the way of things... :rolleyes: Hi Martin, I wonder if it's because they couldn't account for just how successful the first tour was going to be, and the early sell-out of the original numbered 5-track CD perhaps took them by suprise. If that was the case, I'd guess that when it came to 1998 it made more sense to release a full-length CD. I think they are all from the same sessions, yes - It would make sense at the mastering stage to master all the tracks at the same time, rather than doing 5 and then going back and doing it all again for the 12 track edition. I just can't understand why they left 'Dislocation' off the second edition - clearly there was space for it - perhaps it was so that the original 5 track edition retained some uniqueness in comparison?
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Originally posted by RadioBeach: Rob has put a wonderful discography on this site and you can check the formats here...
Thanks for that - the cheque's on its way... Originally posted by RadioBeach: (* My copy is in Sheffield so in earlier posts I assumed it was the same as the original 12 track edition, but no! Checking Rob’s discography pages, The Edsel edition has ‘Dislocation’ on it! Rendering the Exotour CD 97 redundant) Not quite redundant - as the versions of Shifting City are different. There are also some subtle differences between tracks on the Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour and the later Edsel release. Off the top of my head, there are some slight differences with The Quiet Men, The Noise and An Ocean We Can Breathe - so I'll try and detail 'exactly' what theses differences are - and I'll post accordingly. Rob
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Cheers Rob! Oooooh! Intrigue! So they are different - that blows my previous message out the water! Looking forward to the cheque - think I'll get a vintage PolyMoog with it
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Thanks Rob for the clarification. Peter
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I'm so glad I wasn't the only one wallowing in confusion over this one.
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Originally posted by Birdsong: So, as Halloway says, we have "Exotour", "Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour" and "The Omnidelic Exotour" With regard to MP3 players, ive only loaded the later version to save on space.
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On the edsel release, there are added synth lines on various tracks, extra intro and guitar like stabs on Quiet Men. On the Exotour 97 Cd (it's referred to as this on the label), Shifting City has the coda with no added vocal. So all three releases have things unique to them.
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Originally posted by MikeG: Another copy has appeared on e-bay An eBay user called "mrnormall" won that one. I wonder who on earth that might be..?
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Yes I noticed that I think you got a very good result with that one.
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I got my copy of "Exotour 1997" CD yesterday. Everything looks & sounds OK, but it's not numbered!?!
The cover is CD-single style cardboard and it's black inside. There's a space for numbering on the back cover but there's nothing between "Limited edition" and "of 1000".
The disc has light blue label. The title of record is JOHN FOXX & LOUIS GORDON Exotour 1997. One of the very small "engravings" near the hole is IFPI 94A8 and the other is IFPI L554.
Both the disc and the cover look like real thing but no numbering makes me think: a fake, a rarity or a typical "Exotour 97"?
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There's a space for numbering on the back cover but there's nothing between "Limited edition" and "of 1000".[/QB] That is most unusual. Mine is impact printed onto the panel thus : "No. 012 of 1000". The "No. 012" is clearly not done at the same time as the rest - it is a different font, and obviously applied "after the fact". It seems that you have either got a fake on your hands, or a very, very collectible un-numbered original. Unfortunately, my money's on the former. Is the CD-disk printed with a fairly thick powder-blue gloss surface, with black text?
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Originally posted by Ishikawa: Is the CD-disk printed with a fairly thick powder-blue gloss surface, with black text? Yes it is and it looks kosher to me in every way, except that missing numbering. Then again I've never seen one before. There's (rather large) picture of the item: http://personal.inet.fi/muoti/mrnormall/Exotour1997.jpg
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Yep, that looks exactly like mine, but for the blank number box. Most odd, and I'm guessing, more collectable as a result! Unfortunately for me however, is that mine also has a 1-inch-square, ugly-ass Virgin barcode sticker underneath the John & Louis image(s). I daren't remove it for fear of lifting the card-surface with it.
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This is fascinating stuff. I have too much time on my hands... As Rob says, there are in fact differences between quite a few of the tracks on "Subterranean Omnidelic Exotour" and the later Edsel re-issue "The Omnidelic Exotour". As has been previously noted, quitar-like 'stabs' and added synth lines are present on the latter, particularly on The Quiet Men and The Noise which has a noticeably longer intro. Similarly on Endlessly. Exactly the opposite is true on Through My Sleeping - the 'liquid' trickle at the beginning is missing on the Edsel version, which is shorter than the original. There are also some subtle differences at the end of This City on the first two releases. Like Shifting City and Burning Car it is the 'Subterranean' version that appears on the Edsel edition. Thus, I think four out of the five tracks on the Exotour 1997 EP are unique to that release, even if the differences are minor. We have criticised the Edsel releases before in terms of their sound quality, and this is a good example. Just For A Moment in particular suffers from too much loudness and loses some of the texture as a result.
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Yeah, Exotour 97 is much easier and shorter to say!
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Psychedelic rock?! lol
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Looks lovely in its case.
I wish they'd kept that cover for the double-disc reissue.
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Originally posted by Alex S: Looks lovely in its case.
I wish they'd kept that cover for the double-disc reissue. The cover of the latter release was particularly nasty. The fonts alone nearly made me not buy it.
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I was actually looking through the booklet to that today, and I'd forgotten all about those wonderful quotes from John, giving background to many of the songs - really interesting.
The cover to the booklet was slightly better than the digipack cover (IMHO) but still not up to much and ruined by that horrific font!
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Originally posted by Alex S: The cover to the booklet was slightly better than the digipack cover (IMHO) but still not up to much and ruined by that horrific font! Can't say I disagree with you about the font - 'cos it is fairly vile. But as for the picture on the cover of the digipak, I quite like it - but then I would say that as it's one of mine... Rob
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All the photography is good - I always wondered if that was yours. It's good pictures ruined by a nasty font! It is nice to have a live shot on the front of that particular release though. However I think what appeals to me about the booklet cover photo is that it's black & white. On the other hand, what's really cool about the main cover photo is that you can't quite make John out through the lights - always the hidden man
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Jesus H. Christ on a bike £85.01.
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That's just nuts. Who pays that kind of money for a CD?!!
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Originally posted by Alex S: That's just nuts. Who pays that kind of money for a CD?!! Obviously its OK with the person who put in the bid... (and the others who lost out) What are we all of a sudden - the eBay police???
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Originally posted by Birdsong: Originally posted by Alex S: [b] That's just nuts. Who pays that kind of money for a CD?!! Obviously its OK with the person who put in the bid... (and the others who lost out)[/b]And it's certainly not the most I've seen this CD go for - a few years ago a copy was sold on eBay for somewhere in the region of £150.00 Originally posted by Birdsong: What are we all of a sudden - the eBay police??? Quite agree... Rob
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It's amazing that people are paying these amounts of money in these recessionery times. John Foxx is worth it. Meta 0004CD is not easy to find and I remember I completed my John Foxx CD collection with this one. I'm glad that I bought it then 'cos now the times are slightly different. :rolleyes: I did fork out £110 for mine but mine was special. I was lucky to find No 6 signed in Gold by John and Louis. It came from a huge John Foxx fan from the North East of England who had to unfortunately sell all his John Foxx collection: vinyl, cassettes, DVDs and CDs. He was happy for this work of art to go to another John Foxx home and it still is. Exotour is special it's John Foxx resurrection and brought back life to a lot of fans. God bless you John! Chris
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Hi. I have won the Exotour cd on ebay. I put a max bid of £150 so actually I am quite chuffed to get it at £85. I bid for this item on ebay a few years ago and my max bid was £80. Someone beat me by a few pounds so I was gutted. I have been looking ever since so I was'nt going to let this one get away. As for the price, apart from vs303 this was the only thing I did'nt have so it was worth it to me. In 1983 a record dealer I knew had A new kind of man single but he wouldn't sell it to me. I offered him £100 (a weeks wage then). He did sell me Torque Point though so at least I got something interesting.
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I think thats excellent news. Nice story It's great to see John's material valued so highly and people prepared to commit to it in such a serious way. It's a great CD to have, too. Some unique versions of great songs. Well done!
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Originally posted by Birdsong: I think thats excellent news. Nice story Totally agree. Its also good to hear from the buyer. Obviously prepared to pay that much and state why. Nice one!
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Originally posted by Mr Normall: Originally posted by Ishikawa: [b]Is the CD-disk printed with a fairly thick powder-blue gloss surface, with black text? Yes it is and it looks kosher to me in every way, except that missing numbering. Then again I've never seen one before.
There's (rather large) picture of the item: http://personal.inet.fi/muoti/mrnormall/Exotour1997.jpg [/b]I wanted to resurrect this thread because I've just bought a copy myself and it also has no number, even though it looks and feels genuine enough. Was the authenticity of such discs ever ascertained? I'm wondering if it's possible that extra discs were produced to satisfy a greater demand than was anticipated, but with only the original 1000 being numbered in order to preserve their 'limited edition' status?
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The picture of my unnumbered "Exotour 97" is still there. Good.
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Originally posted by Gwilym: Originally posted by Mr Normall: [b] Originally posted by Ishikawa: [b]Is the CD-disk printed with a fairly thick powder-blue gloss surface, with black text? Yes it is and it looks kosher to me in every way, except that missing numbering. Then again I've never seen one before. There's (rather large) picture of the item: http://personal.inet.fi/muoti/mrnormall/Exotour1997.jpg [/b] I wanted to resurrect this thread because I've just bought a copy myself and it also has no number, even though it looks and feels genuine enough. Was the authenticity of such discs ever ascertained?
I'm wondering if it's possible that extra discs were produced to satisfy a greater demand than was anticipated, but with only the original 1000 being numbered in order to preserve their 'limited edition' status? [/b]Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
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